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, is this going to be the norm going forward? are there more acquisitions to be done in terms of technology and international? >> we are clearly going to be investing in technology. no doubt about it. now, whether it's acquisitions or our oh own capabilities, i spent monday and tuesday in our office in san bernardino, california, and we have acquired talent, the best talent in the world, the smartest in silicon valley, that i continue to be enthused. so we will invest in different ways in the area of technology. and at the same time, we're going to continue to invest in stores. we think the overlap -- having 11,000 retail stores around the world and the world's best technology -- we think produces the world's best way to serve consumers in every market, so we're going to continue to invest in both in order to serve customers with this overlap of technology and stores. >> you know, it's interesting that you mentioned -- first of all, will you take people from amazon.com? what about the talent there? >> well, we have great respect for all competitors, including amazon and other competitors. a
of a stock. technology is an issue here. everything is now run by computers. the markets are computerized. when computers run the show, they break down. they screw up. human beings screw up, but there are others to patch it. connell: all of these things that you brought up, and these are big issues, the fact that yesterday was not a complete mess in terms of market panic, what does that tell us? is that good news? charlie: this is a big deal. it has the average investors saying i do not want any parts in stocks. they are not investing in these great companies like apple. what makes america great are these companies that are in these big companies. connell: maybe they should be reassured? >> the average investor should not feel reassured. the markets are broken right now. they need fixing. they need fixing from a structural standpoint. when stuff runs as it is running now, trades are being done on dark pools. we know they had something to do with the listed price. we do not know exactly what is going on. the other issue is the technology. is it up to the task of running the markets? it is
picture doesn't usually change. >> at some point, the technology gets better, it gets more -- the nasdaq has more competition these days. >> they're the first one. they should be the ones that have it down. >> you would think. >> and no one is going back to specialists. we'll have all the politicians calling for more regulation. you know that's going to happen, even though the s.e.c. is already, some people think fairly heavily handed and we'll talk about that in the executive exchange in a second. other headline today, moodys placed the ratings of six of the largest banks in the u.s. on review. the agency is weighing the possibility of lesser government support for those institutions. we're talking about goldman sachs, jpmorgan, morgan stanley, wells fargo all under review with a possible implication for downgrade. bank of america and citigroup are being evaluated in their words with the direction uncertain -- already sort of -- >> see what is interesting there, right? the stronger the banks, the stronger banks are being downgraded because s&p says, oh, it all falls apart, they won't ge
, when technology breaks down it can be costly. amazon lost millions when its site went offline. nasdaq's shut down brought billions in trading to a complete halt. tonight, cramer's zeroing in on the top plays to keep your portfolio protected. >>> plus, you ask. he answers. >> i'm wondering about susq. susquehanna. >> i got to do the homework. i'm not ready to give you an answer. >> you sent cramer back to the books. now he's got the answers you need. >>> plus, jim responds to your tweets. @jimcramer #mad tweets. all coming up on "mad money." >>> don't miss a second of "mad money." follow @jimcramer on twitter. have a question? tweet cramer. #madtweets. send jim an e-mail to madmoney at cnbc.com. or give us a call at 1-800-743-cnbc. miss something? head to madmoney.cnbc.com. when we made our commitment to the gulf, bp had two big goals: help the gulf recover and learn from what happened so we could be a better, safer energy company. i can tell you - safety is at the heart of everything we do. we've added cutting-edge technology, like a new deepwater well cap and a state-of-the-art monit
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, and they are reinventing themselves. think ever not just innovation and technology, but look at the lining around the city, shake shack? i mean, that's innovative burger, and people wait an hour to get one. adam: it's greasy though. >> it's good enough to wait an hour in line, but there's forms of innovation, and in the trucking industry -- lori: despite worker regulations on the hours they drive? >> doesn't help, but they have to work around that stuff, and that makes them -- at the end of the day, more competitive. adam: sensing a takeover? >> glad you said that. they have been in the rumor mill on and off for a long time, and hammered in part because of poor excuse, oversold despite the fact it's coming back. feel like they are chasing breakouts, and the new ceo is a woman, i think, the first woman to run the company in a long time. womenning the -- woman of a trucking company. innovation; right? these old-schoolboys from ors, okay, thinking out of the box. i like it. earnings estimates for the fiscal year this year and next year rocket to the upside. wall street expects big things from the company and
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to be clear on some technologies. that is one thing to delay it or another to defund it out right. are new that camp? do you think that it is important enough and principled enough cause, to go ahead and risk a shut down? >> i'm not talking about a shut down, the shut down will come on the heel -- in the lap of president obama. because he is the one that said, and also signed several pieces of legislation that has repealed or replaced . >> i know what you are saying, i guess what i'm getting at, you are right there is another way that it is president bringing on shut down, but speaker and other main treatment republicans, if you will, said it will be on republicans could and look like last government shut down, they will get the blame. >> you see, that is the politics of it i will be honest and clear. that is such a phase willure of leadership -- that is such a failure of leadership. like what i just did, you know, i was born and raised in georgia went to university of tennessee i am not some harvard educated gent els -- gentlemen, but if ie explain it, why can't house leader explain it ju
the new nascar fan and media engagement center. hp's technology helps us turn millions of tweets, posts and stories into real-time business insights that help nascar win with our fans. >> well, i think to be honest, russian and chinese, these are authoritarian governments. this is a client state. they are worried about, the only thing chinese care about is continuing access to oil supplies out of the region. syria is not much importance to any of us in terms of national security. i think they are symbolic. they will halt legitimacy through the u.n. they won't oppose us on the ground. the question will be, if we pull off this strike with 200 tomahawks some time this weekend, what's the likely outcome? it is unpredictable. unlikely to be good. you want to use military power and tell the u.s. air force and navy, you've got 60 days to bring down the assad regime, they'll do it. there's no question. then we will live with the follow-on war in which they try and eliminate the christians, the -- et cetera. >> thank you for your thoughts today. >> thank you. >> bill, not a lot of good options f
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other than the 8 talked about synergies but we get this with people with the technology and fletcher is contemplating a fairly significant cuts once the merger gets close. i believe it is closed at the beginning of the third quarter, sometime in the fall we should point out. it is interesting, quick to somebody the stock exchange has, quote, 20 lawyers doing the same thing. when you have that type of overlap, he thinks there is a lot of fat to be trimmed from the stock exchange. the new york stock exchange will tell you they need a lot of overhead. this is a different animal than the police which is the computerized trading mechanism which focuses on options and the stock exchange and other things get a listing, gets companies to list on the stock exchange marketing and advertising that goes along with that which means more head count. it will meet in new middle. from what i understand there's not a lot of middle ground here. they have been running the show from what i understand and basically the new york stock exchange for better or worse is being managed, they do not have much say
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nascar fan and media engagement center. hp's technology helps us turn millions of tweets, posts and stories into real-time business insights that help nascar win with our fans. >>> finger pointing and name calling. that's been the game between the nasdaq and new york stock exchange since last thursday. now the federal government is demanding hard answers. >> the two exchanges are blaming one another for the destruction and now the securities and exchange commission heard enough. its head mary jo white demanding they meet september 12th to give a clear picture of exactly what happened. what's on the line at the meeting and what's the future of these exchanges? with us, david wield, former vice chairman and chris nagy, served on the board of the philadelphia stock exchange and amex option s exchanges. william. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> from your perspective, how important is the nasdaq prove it's not at fault jmplt you c? >> you can look at the structure. both at fault in some way. blaming the markets isn't particularly productive. they've become so complicated, some respects
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technologically-driven our economy is, especially these high speed trades and, you know, smart grid, et cetera, the more vulnerable are we to potential interruptions. >> now to the regulators, people familiar with the matter tell fox business, commodities future trading commission is looking for new rules for high speed computer changes. sec chairman mary jo white plans to hold a meeting with marketing officials and nasdaq about the marketing freeze. they plan to have new standards and fines for electronic trading networks t would require them to test their systems and design plans for failures. house services and staff there are examining the issue. tracy? tracy: rich edson, thank you very much. adam: for more on yesterday's nasdaq flash freeze and what is means for investors, brian jacobsen, wells fargo fund management. he is the chief portfolio strategist and he joins us now. get back to the question of nasdaq. have they thoroughly explained this to the satisfaction of investors and market participants? >> stock price reaction would suggest they haven't thoroughly explained or people didn't
. the cnbc news line is rick shearling, head of u.s. technology research. he just got off the phone with microsoft. rick, was ballmer forced out? >> jim, it's not exactly clear. you know that value act was pressing and threatening to file a proxy battle. and on their agenda was management succession. so i guess what's unclear right now does this validate that value active getting a board seat and they're already having some effect for might suggest that value act had a harder time winning a board seat, that one of their key items to appeal to investors was was management succession is kind of off the table now. the other items, i think on value act's agenda is the significant repurchase and significant increase in dividend. i think all of that becomes more likely if you have new management in place. but i think right now the key question would be does this probability of getting a board seat or wrath whether they have to go through the proxy concept and whether that's effective. one of their main octobbjective management succession. >> do you think that investors should chase the st
technology. but they're getting around that with the boats. tucson has wonderful technologies, but all it does is presses them to other points. and now the new point of entry now is texas. the rio grande valley, the immigration flow has gone up 55%. without a national strategy and plan to dix state where we put those resources we're going to continue to throw money at the problem without a real solution. >> and your proposal, this administration, to be clear, has rolled back 287g, the co-op prative legislation that authorized regulation, that authorizes cooperation between the immigration authorities, the border patrol, and local law enforcement. this administration wants no part of it. your law, your bill, would encourage thatcoeration. what has been the reaction? >> local law enforcement are force multiplier. the ones down the border have a valuable role to play. the border sheriffs endorse my bill, they support it, because it gives -- this bill gives them a voice as stakeholders as to what the national strategy is going to be and what the implementation plan is going to be along wit
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the importance of technology. and we cannot forget what the nasdaq has become. going to a controlled company to a publicly traded nasdaq. dennis: let's go back. >> i like this hillary. i really like her. dennis: when something like this goes wrong, which would you prefer as a guy in the business, that the ceo of the nasdaq comes out right away and says we are looking into it. right now i don't know anything. he stays on tv and is talking all day. or would you prefer other silence and then at the end of the day they come out with some incomprehensible statement? >> of course that technology in getting that back up and going is great. from the standpoint of communication, you have to communicate because people will naturally get fearful without knowledge. people will start doing things they should not do. absolutely should have had better communication. dennis: hillary. >> just remember -- dennis: i have a question. my questions are far more important than your answers. [laughter] but it occurs to me, everyone saying this will further undermine confidence among small investors. really couldn't
language -- technological practice artechnoe time you get to the third year of the building of that, it is obsolete, and if i am attacking u.s., do i attack the port or an allie or the nazdaq? >> you think there was some what of a concerted effort of a variety of folks with bad intentions. >> oh, yeah, are you kidding me, i've talked to people in the administration where they said, what do you think your biggest threat is. if i want to destabilize the economy of the u.s., i set up a fund, and go i through a couple years of trading alga rythm, i have a fat finger knowing it will trigg downstream 20 bad events we saw a na nazdaq freez, and we've seen a flash crash. are not that big into the market. >> no. i sat in a group this week with entrepreneurs and small business people, i said which do you think is more stable, gives you a better with more tra transpar, vegas in the casino or stock market. it was 100%. vegas and t casino. peop do not trust the second stock ansecondstock any more --e any more, they don't trust it. there is no system that cannot be hacked. right now or stock mark
caught flat footed with the changes, with globalization and technology. we didn't have a policy, and so all these minorities in cities, particularly, are left without jobs. he dieded, by the way, going, striking with garbage workers when he died. neil: that's right. >> he cares for average workers who in the new economy, we're caught flat footed, and so on an optimistic note, we believe in empowerment, not just a question of government spending -- >> support school choice then? >> how can we go to a new economy that's not simply low wage with the jobs that don't pay -- neil: all right, guys, i think we conclude here that at least begin our track record, the government's record on solving, it's failed. maybe it's time to reprioritize, and you offer good ideas in that regard. gentlemen, thank you. meanwhile, half a trillion dollar fine for bad bet curtesy of u.s. governments with a wale singling out an investment bank of losing money because in the end the firm made money. the government punishing it now is good at losing. ♪ and hearing everything from our marketing partners, the media
technologies, unites technologies made the acquisition of goodrich. the airspace is on fire in the country. you default to that that's an international market that must be based here. like united technology, it's a smart company. >> street research, not too much this week. the deutsche bank upgrading dollar tree to buy to hold. sales incrementally positive on the dollar stores. you not only follow the stores you manage to get into one or two every weekend. >> i do prefer dollar tree. if you ever bought candy the a cvs or walgreens, you're a sucker. >> is that significant? >> if you buy readers, i can't see a thing, you're playing full praise. you go there, they're a fraction. >> the stock's up so much. what could happen there? >> the board is all up, you've got a standstill expiring or expiring. there's continued chatter, could you see, could you try to force a deal between family dollar and dollar tree. >> dollar tree had good numbers last week. >> dollar general. >> dollar general, frankly a buyback king. they have -- they spin -- >> walmart have any interest? >> walmart? >> i'm not saying an
in the history of autism's past they have generally seen more autism in technology centers. >> reporter: there may be genetic factors at work but there are also teachers at work to help. the study in the journal of the american medical association also says there is an increased risk for half siblings but only when they share a mother. >>> a small study of athletes who suffered repeat concussions identifies the early signs of brain disease. researchers studied 36 male athletes diagnosed with a brain disease linked to repetitive blows to the head. they interviewed family members and found out they had mood and behave issues as the first signs of the disease. some of them had explosive outbursts and physical violation. >>> pg&e incomplete recordkeeping may not have been fixed. that's a concern of two law judges who might fine the utility next month. the san francisco chronicle says they expressed concern when pg&e using faulty recordkeeping. >>> in a maryland courtroom today supporters gasped when the judge announced bradley manning's 35-year sentence for espionage. he gave hundreds of th
that technology in getting that back up and going is great. from the standpoint of communication, you have to communicate because people will naturally get fearful without knowledge. people will start doing things they should not do. absolutely should have had better communication. dennis: hillary. >> just remember -- dennis: i have a question. my questions are far more important than your answers. [laughter] but it occurs to me, everyone saying this will further undermine confidence among small investors. really couldn't you give a message until small investors that this should not underne your confidence? this is not worth worrying about. >> it isn't worth worrying about because we saw the proof is in how the market closed. it closed at. we were able to jump right back in there. we should never forget that bothers the tech guide. he has led the nasdaq to a global international success, a lot of foreign companies public and does so much more. maybe he's not the best communicator, but he is a awfully great technology guy. dennis: also supposed to be a very generous guy. think he will be se
. but i know this, it is weird, and unsettling. what you can't trade some of the biggest technology stocks on the planet, they are just sitting there, prices frozen in time, forget they are sitting ducks, if this keeps happening in our high-tech super fast trading word just duck. still so much we don't know, customers don't know if their orders got through and people in charge of the orders unable to tell us if they did. focus not on lawsuit that i am sure are coming but a very disturbing pattern hd to deny, this last week, washington post web site hacked, "new york times" news and web site down for hours, time sites, cnn cite, amazon.com site, each hit all down, and we're supposed to be relieved when they get back up? i don't know if they are connected. but i can connection dots, our mightist media, and financial sites where we shop, read, and trade, stop on a dime, costing them a lot of dimes, millions in potential revenue prose en -- frozen revenue because someone or something got in and messed it up. it slows trading on scores of other exchanges in chicago. in new york, and countless o
, it is not a downer. >> although on the technologies we saw yesterday reported by the journal 660% of the ipos here have been tech-related which is not a reflection of a great deal of excitement. >> well, i bridle at that, because i think that biotech should be considered tech, and b biotech is the hottest year i can remember. a lot of the biotech companies came public and found people suspicious saying that people will buy anything. >> we are not there yet. >> no? >> really? the ipos that we have looked at, it does not appear that the quality of them has diminished anywhere near the level that we saw where you could put zseven sentences on paper and then open up public. >> and the perkulation of the stocks, and if you want to see some group dole we well, and tht of bristol-myers -- >> we mentioned that the nasdaq was positive on the month and it just went negative, so we did jinx that. over to bob pisani on the floor. >> oil is up at a six-month high, and chevron and exxon up, but 28 other stocks to the dow are to the downside. rough seas over in the emerging markets, and indian and philippine and
, if you can't kill him, if you can't kill him, do we know, do we have the technology, i assume we do, basically we can hit all of these individual buildings as you were saying, his country place in the mountains? do we know, you know, these tomorrow mohawk missiles will go up to the traffic lights, stop, make a right turn and go down the chimney? these are awesome weapons of war. what would hold us back from making use of that? apart from the politics of it, what would hold us back from really just decimating damascus and all the environs. >> the only issue that's holding us back is the politics of it and all the administration has a fear of repreefg the iraq war, i don't see how because nobody's talking about boots on the ground. the real fear they should have is of reprieving what bill clinton did in 1998 with another three-day strike on saddam hussein, it was called operation desert fox. it was seen as a political distraction on the eve of his impeachment. it strengthened saddam hussein's hand internationally, not weakening it. a de minimis strike is going to reap the worst of bot
. >> never know what i might do. >> coming up next how ford is using new technology to change the way it makes cars. brian gets a firsthand look at 3d printing. billionaire entrepreneur owner of the cleveland cavs and detroit native dan gilbert with us. first how ford is using innovation to bring jobs back to detroit. we'll talk to executive vice president mark fields next on a special edition of "morning joe." we're here at the university of colorado with master griller and pro-tailgater, matt connor who's secretly serving steaks from walmart. it's a steak over! dude, it's so good. it's juicy. it's nice and tender. only one in five steaks is good enough to be called walmart choice premium steak. all these steaks are from walmart. oh my gosh! top ten most tender steaks i've had. i'm going to start buying meat at walmart. walmart's prices are so low you could have steak at every game. it's 100% satisfaction guaranteed. try it. like carpools... polly wants to know if we can pick her up. yeah, we can make room. yeah. [ male announcer ] ...office space. yes, we're loving this communal sea
and american companies can take a -- take a vintage. looking at technologies new methods of doing business but not just high-tech look get the shakes jack they have done something different waiting in line $1 for a burger. it is called innovation. also execution. you did have the greatest team in the world but updated on how to play together or a manager to make them play together, they will not win. management can navigate all kinds of economies in the ability to take market share , the ability to do great things. those are things that you want. takes more time to find this but when new do, yosleep better. forget about the p-e ratio. we do want to have fun because he learned the importance of the global economy and why it is important. here is a quiz. do you know, what city this is? i also posted a picture earlier of my twitter feed. tweet me if you think you know, the swer and i will give you a few clues. 4 million people, a big luxury hotel destination area, four seasons just open and the main engine of growth is not wheel that i will reveal the winner in to you by this picture is wor
company. i can tell you - safety is at the heart of everything we do. we've added cutting-edge technology, like a new deepwater well cap and a state-of-the-art monitoring center, where experts watch over all drilling activity twenty-four-seven. and we're sharing what we've learned, so we can all produce energy more safely. our commitment has never been stronger. ♪ >> what i was saying. welcome back top of the hour, look at that, monday morning. time to get up and go to work. richard haas and bloomberg business juliana is with us. we're going to do third term, on the context of the word term. >> what were you saying in the break? just kidding. along with sam stein in washington. you said nothing, you were great. sam, hello. >> hello. >> sam, you want to chime in on the voter i.d. situation? >> yeah. i do. i think you got it wrong. i think there are restrictions here that are, you know, burning some prepredominantly minority communities. closing down polling stations, ending early voting. for college kids you can no longer in these instances use college i.d. laws. some of these people don
's why we partnered with hp to build the new nascar fan and media engagement center. hp's technology helps us turn millions of tweets, posts and stories into real-time business insights that help nascar win with our fans. >>> welcome back. it's time now for the "executive edge," our daily segment focused on giving business leaders a leg up. and you know, we're approaching the five-year anniversary of the financial crisis and the government response coming up, about two weeks. if you think the collapse of lehman is that anniversary. in my "the new york times" column this morning, we looked at t.a.r.p. and i talked to hank paulsen about his misgivings about bank bonuses. he rarely talked about this before, and speaking about the payouts, paulsen noted in part -- "to say i was disappointed is an understatement. my view has nothing to do with legality and everything to do with what was right and everything to do with just a colossal lack of self-awareness to how they were viewed by the american public." and you know, guys, hank paulson has not come out and talked about the bonuses in a f
breached itself with technology used in the xbox game console. did you see what david pogue wrote about ballmer? i thought it was insightful. >> i thought it was critical. everything over the last 13 years. >> i looked at it and looked at net income and number of employees and revenue and everything eliminatise. the one thing that stuck out, obviously, was that the stock was still down from where it was in 2000, but that's the same with any -- it's a $6 billion market cap. that was the blue chip sort of mania that put coke at 50 times earnings and general electric at $60 a share and all of these stocks were way overbought and overloved in the late '90s. you look at just how he managed the business itself. it is a -- what do they make? what do they do in revenue? what do they make per year? i think two or three times what they used to make when it was a $600 million company. i don't know. they provided software for pcs. they battled the open -- like linux, whatever, they sort of prevailed there. >> the question is what's going to happen with the company in the next ten years? to me, give
that the stocks as a group, mandy, are part of the prior cycle leadership and rather be in industrials, technology and financials in the states relative to global precious metals at these levels. >> are you among those that keep a portion of a portfolio in gold anyway as a hedge? 5% or whatever? >> well, we do for some of our blended portfolios, bill, when we take a look at holdings both in canada, in the united states. but our u.s. portfolios we look at are benchmarked toward the u.s. and what we want to do is be cautious here in the materials space given where fundamentals are. 2% or 3% position is prudent in the u.s. at these levels. >> can i follow up on what you were saying about industrials, brian? you know, a lot of industrials, you know, they have assets in various geographies around the world and in light of the fact of seeing stabilizations in the regions, brian, do you feel that that hasn't yet been priced in yet and could be part of the upside you see? >> it's an excellent point, mandy. i think the big thing on industrials are investors over ten years used industrials for the increment
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